[Seph]

Apparently, a guy has stolen a PS3 from a kiosk, then posted pictures of it in his house plus given his Myspace site. This is on Digg.com but the original postings have gone down, although it was too late and had been Dugg already:

http://duggmirror.com/gaming_news/S...s_on_Car_Forum/

Opinions anyone?

[Rebel]

dugg mirror is a 404.

no idea really.

[Lynk Former]

If true: Can't blame him, no way he could afford one in the first place XD

[Damatee]

since the cost of the PS3 is truely rediclulous, you cant blame him really

[Rebel]

yes, because of course, people dont buy expensive cars, multi-million dollar homes, and 20,000 dollar computers. people OBVIOUSLY can't afford a PS3

Okay, we all know I'm one of the few people here who ISNT a Nintendo fan, but seriously, people will find a way to afford something if they normally cant and really want it. I want a Ps3, so I'm selling off my PS2 goodies. Get off playstation's back already, it was funny, now it's just annoying.

[Lynk Former]

Well think of it this way Rebel... the PS3 down here in Australia is 1000AUD... so let's work out how much I can get for 1000AUD down here for each three consoles.

1000AUD will get you...
ONE PlayStation 3 = 1000AUD

1000AUD will get you...
Xbox360 = 650AUD
Wireless controller = 80AUD
Battery pack = 35AUD
High Definition AV pack = 50AUD
Gears of War = 120AUD
and 65AUD of change.

1000AUD will get you...
Nintendo Wii + Wii Sports = 400AUD
2000 Wii Points Card = 30AUD
Classic Controller = 30AUD
Component Cable = 50AUD
Nunchaku = 30AUD
Rayman Raving Rabbids = 100AUD
Red Steel = 100AUD
The Legend of Zelda - Twilight Princess = 100AUD
Wii Play + Wii Remote = 80AUD
and 80AUD of change.

Kinda makes you think now doesn't it.

[FirestarterCL]

I'm honestly pretty sick of the PS3 bashing everywhere too. How about we try to match the features of the PS3 with an XBOX 360? You could do something like this; (in $US)

XBOX 360 Premium: $400
-The top of the line system, with all of the goody-goodies
Play and Charge Kit: $20
-Unless you like buying AA batteries all the time.
Wireless Module: $100
-Might not need to be included, I'm not sure if the PS3 can connect to a wireless network or if its just for the PSP.
HD-DVD add-on: $200
What, you want to play some nice HD movies on your console in 1080P?

Total: $720 (or $620 without wireless)

.. oh my, what just happened here?

Then there's the additional 40GB of HDD space and no need for proprietary memory cards... oh, and that magic Linux thing that does so much. Of course the 360 has the crap beat out of PS3 when it comes to online.

As you can see, things can be twisted in the favor of whatever side you're on. Me, I don't give a damn. Buy what you want... but people need to stop bitching about the PS3 just because it's the PS3. We get it already... go play with your Wii or something.


(Sorry, I had to get that joke in)

[Chimasterwang]

There are reasons people like Nintendo you know also Lynks thing makes sence =P

[Lynk Former]

Pay attention people. I don't like the price of the PS3, I don't like the price of the Xbox360... and I don't like the price of Wii.

The list I wrote up was what I would get as a starter set for each console if I had 1000AUD as a limit. The things I listed for the Xbox360 and Wii are things I think that those systems need to get a good gaming experience from the very beginning.

With the Xbox360, I would get it for Gears of War, and the accessories I listed would be very much needed to get a good experience out of the game.

Wireless Module? Don't need it, ethernet works very well. HD-DVD drive? Don't need it, what does that have to do with videogames? Recharge pack? Important, agreed with the addition. Linux? Now honestly, do normal people actually CARE?

Features, features, features... most of which matter jack all to the games themselves. All I'm concerned about are the games, so anything that makes games better is a good thing... what the PS3 has doesn't necessarily do that, it's just more features.

Even without those extra features the PS3 has, I see the Xbox360 and PS3 as being equals in what they're trying to achieve. Just that the PS3 is more expensive.

On a final note, there's no way to replace the battery inside the PS3 controller, so if it dies, you have to throw away the PS3 controller instead of just buying a replacable battery pack.

[Rebel]

not point, all your points ignore the only point that actually matters to ANYONE. and that is: Does the person WANT a PS3? If the answer is yes, then it dosent matter how much the PS3 is, they're going to pay for it.

example: I use my PS2 as a Ps1, a Ps2, a DVD player, a CD player. I can invest 300USD in a PS1, DVD player and CD player alone.

In a PS3 I get:
A Ps3 console
a PS2 console
a PS1 console
a DVD player(non-blu ray)
a blu-ray DVD player
and a CD player.

say, 200 for just the ps3 aspect
100 for the PS2 aspect
free PS1
100 for DVD player(you gotta spent 100 if you want a good one)
100 for CD player
200 for blu-ray DVD player.

the goodness or badness of games is determined by THE GAME, not the console, there are some craptacular games on ALL the consoles, and there are some kick-ass games on the PS1 and Nes/SNes. If a console can't play the games made for it, we have a problem. Otherwise, blame the game developers, not Sony.

yeah, if all I'm interested in is the ability to play PS3 games, it's a total rip, but unlike the Wii, the PS3 is not JUST a gameing console. So stop comparing it to one. I dont see the gamecube capable of playing any Nintendo game, yet, whats this? The PS3 can play any playstation game? Well, I would never have expect that in a console.

And Lynk, get off your high-horse, the PS3 controller is rechargeable. If the battery dies and your under warrenty, get it replaced. Just about every electronics store will sell you an insurance plan on every peice of electronics you buy, it's like 10% of the price of the item. So an insurance plan on a PS3? 60 bucks, on a controller? about 3 and a half. I think I can live with that.

Of course, you, who think the Wii is too expensive, obviously cant stand to live with any cost over what you think you should pay for it. Well guess what Lynk, the global market dosent revolve around your whims. it revolves aorund mine. :-P

EDIT: for the record, I DONT have a CD or DVD player in my room outside of my PS2, so for the PS3 to include these things, it's a necessity for me.

[Black Howling]

And the debate gets heated, ok i wouldnt mond getting a PS3. However i wont pay thatt price for one. i dont need a dvd player, cd player etc cause i got those at home so to me the ps3 is a rip off, I'll get it when it goes down,

but the Wii can play all off Nintendos back catalogue anyway i dont think lynk meant the gamecube :P


Though personally the Wii price here is the same as a psp so its quite cheap ^^

But yeah people will pay it if they really want it. in my personal opinion too damn expensive.

[FirestarterCL]

I won't go any further with an arguement... I can't change what you think. So, enyoy your Wii, and only your Wii.

*draws a door with a Wiimote and leaves the topic*

[Chimasterwang]

I thought you got a 1-3year warrenty on any electrical goods automaticly anyway XD
Btw Lynk spent like 2300 AUD already on a large surround sound system and TV i dont think money is that much his problem XD

[Laughing Man]

Its called a credit card, i got my first @ 17. I love my PS2 its one of a few first run PS2s that didn't break (my mom worked at toys r us when it came out) and everyone that cries about it will own on within a year of release there will be some game or somthing that will make people go oooooooo I plan on getting one eventually, once i start working again and they come out with some bad ass games

[Chimasterwang]

Heres something random who has wear marks on their mouse =P
I do XD

[Laughing Man]

Heres something random who has wear marks on their mouse =P
I do XD

i got a new mouse recently but on my old one yes and the scroller in the middle stopped working, which is why i got a new one

[Rebel]

Heres something random who has wear marks on their mouse =P
I do XD

yup, definatly, one is starting to show up on my laptop finger-pad thing as well.

[Milkymagic]

I think the Blu-Ray format's success will determine how much sony will lose in the whole deal, though I think HD-DVD isn't much popular. And for the record, can't blame the guy either, PS3's do not grow on trees

I got a 360, but due to some setbacks, I probably won't be getting a PS3 till months (or a year) down the road. A Wii is cheap enough, but I'd rather sample the control scheme before jumping into it.

My friend's been trying to get me to preorder some PS3's with him, then make profits off of them (Ebay?). Knowing how the 360's supply and demand went last year, I'm not ruling it out...but I don't have the money to participate

Enjoy your PS3's when you get one!

[Lynk Former]

I'm looking at this from the average persons point of view, not the hardcore gamers. We already know that hardcore gamers will buy whatever console because they know the system and know the games that will come out for it.

Besides, I don't have to own the systems to play their games. Despite not owning a PS1, PS2, Xbox, Xbox360, Dreamcast, etc, I have played the games that have appeared on those consoles and enjoyed them.

All I've ever said is that I don't like the price of the PS3 so don't get your panties in a twist if I continue to say that I don't like the price of the PS3. I don't it's worth paying 600USD/1000USD for it and ironically even my friends who are Playstation fans don't think it's worth paying that much for it which is why they're waiting. The problem is that none of us know exactly how long they'll be waiting so they're gonna have to get it at some point even if the price hasn't changed. And that pisses me off. So excuse me for worrying about that kind of thing.

Finally, I never said that the PS3 controller wasn't rechargable, but lithion-ion's have been known to fail and Sony's track record with customer service is, to be blunt: SHIT.

[Milkymagic]

Out of frustration, Bill Gates develops Terminators and takes down Sony, thus Skynet is born...

[kyubichan]

I'm backing up Lynk on this one: PS3 is pretty expensive compared to other consoles. I remember back when PS was first launched, people I knew found it rather "expensive" as well, thus many of them waited a year or so to get a PS. Now I shall stop right there because overall, I prefer the GB and its incarnations.

[Lynk Former]

Wait a second... *rereads Rebels post* I really should've read through your post more carefully... cause damn... *shakes head*

the goodness or badness of games is determined by THE GAME, not the console, there are some craptacular games on ALL the consoles, and there are some kick-ass games on the PS1 and Nes/SNes. If a console can't play the games made for it, we have a problem. Otherwise, blame the game developers, not Sony.

I never said anything about the games. I never said that the PS3 games must all suck just cause it's on the PS3. I have said that there are great games on every console out there and that I make sure to play them all. I never blamed Sony for the games.

yeah, if all I'm interested in is the ability to play PS3 games, it's a total rip, but unlike the Wii, the PS3 is not JUST a gameing console. So stop comparing it to one. I dont see the gamecube capable of playing any Nintendo game, yet, whats this? The PS3 can play any playstation game? Well, I would never have expect that in a console.

I love this paragraph the most Wouldn't it be more accurate to say something like "The PS2 can play PS1 games while the GameCube can't play N64 games"? I'm sure that's what you meant cause there's no way you meant it the way I thought you meant it since Wii can play NES/SNES/N64/GCN/MSX/Turbografix/Genesis games.




XD You're a funny guy Rebel.

[Milkymagic]

The PS3 is really expensive, and I thought the 360 was pushing it...

But then I hear what Kyubi's sayin', I remember all the reasons my mother had during my childhood for not getting a PS. It was more expensive than a SNES or Genesis at the time, and she was stern about not helping me with that. By the time the Nintendo 64 came out, she seemed ok with getting it (being it wasn't quite as expensive as the PS or Saturn when they debuted). Plus me and my brother would have fights over the 32-bit systems (I wanted a Saturn, he wanted a PS). Now that I'm all grown up? Money's holding me back, especially since I got a 360 with the help of a friend. A gamecube wasn't hard to obtain by the time it was $100 though And a PS2 is quite obtainable at the moment. But we all know why that is...

Fun Note: To this day, I love my Saturn to death, but cry over the fact I had to ebay Panzer Dragoon Saga (paid $200 years back for it) and Guardian Heroes (paid $70), long with discovering import greats like Radiant Silvergun (another $200 back in my better money making heyday). Those days are over now, trust me.

Fun Note 2: We bought a Panasonic 3DO back when it was dying from the PS and Saturn, it was $100 with our choice of three games, and to this day I miss it...

[Rebel]

Wait a second... *rereads Rebels post* I really should've read through your post more carefully... cause damn... *shakes head*


I never said anything about the games. I never said that the PS3 games must all suck just cause it's on the PS3. I have said that there are great games on every console out there and that I make sure to play them all. I never blamed Sony for the games.


I love this paragraph the most Wouldn't it be more accurate to say something like "The PS2 can play PS1 games while the GameCube can't play N64 games"? I'm sure that's what you meant cause there's no way you meant it the way I thought you meant it since Wii can play NES/SNES/N64/GCN/MSX/Turbografix/Genesis games.




XD You're a funny guy Rebel.

I have yet to see anything on the Wii that allows it to play old games without them being rereleased on discs or you needing some kind of attachment. Your Wii requires an internet connection, probly a fast one, to utilize it's ability to download old games. You can't pick up your N64/SNes/Nes cartridge and stcik it in the Wii.

actually, you did say something about Ps3 games:
"Features, features, features... most of which matter jack all to the games themselves. All I'm concerned about are the games, so anything that makes games better is a good thing... what the PS3 has doesn't necessarily do that, it's just more features." Consoles STILL can't make games better, only developers can do that.

[Chimasterwang]

They can provide the ground for more things though =P
Better AI, GFX and Physics =P

[Lynk Former]

Uh, Rebel. Sony is rereleasing PS1 games over the net so that people can download them and store them on their PS3 and PSP. Most people don't have PS1 games anymore. Then the PS3 can play PS2 discs... cause it was just the last generation.

Wii can play GCN discs... because they were last generation. Then the NES/SNES/N64/MSX/Turbografix/Genesis games are available to download from Nintendo's online store. None of the virtual console games are being rereleased on discs because none of them require that much space to run. The largest virtual console games you will find are the N64 games which are 16MB on average.

So how many people really own all of those legacy games? I know some do, and they have the console that can play those games too sitting there collecting dust. But the great majority has sold off those old games and console hardware and updated to the new stuff... so having Sony releasing PS1 games over the net and Nintendo releasing NES/SNES/N64/MSX/Turbografix/Genesis games over the net is a VERY good idea for both companies and those involved.

The virtual console games are stored on the Wii's 512MB flash memory and can be transfered to an SD card you insert into the front of the Wii behind that little flap. And once you buy those games, they're yours forever, if you decide to delete the game from your system, the game is still yours, Nintendo has recorded your purchase and you can download it again for free later.


And finally, yes I did say something about games... never said they sucked though, nor did I say that Sony made them worse, all I said was that those extra features don't necessarily make games better. However I fully acknowledge the fact that the PS3 is a powerhouse and in past discussions have said that the graphical and overall power of PS3 is impressive and that if developers can find a way to use that power, which will be extremely difficult, we'll see games some damn huge and exansive games. I've even said this to you MSN.

[Eva]

PS3 an expensive console. Even if you had a job, it would result in more money out of your pocket instead of purchasing a X-box 360 or Wii. That's about sum it up. For the case about "better" console, that's completely opinionated. Sony PS3 a power piece of equipment and the price would be fair. Doesn't mean I find it cheap or I would buy one any time soon. Like most kids that don't have a job or low paying job, like myself, forking that amount of cash just isn't going to happen. Parents buying the system for children also don't like forking that much money for a gaming console either.

[Lynk Former]

This isn't just about the consumer either, developers are also interested in making games that don't break the bank but give back high returns. That's pretty much the success of the PS2 in a package tied with a bright red ribbon right there... and it seems like some developers such as Ubisoft, Bandai-Namco and EA are seeing Wii as being the next generation equivelant on that level.

[Scar da Kookee]

Wii can play GCN discs... because they were last generation. Then the NES/SNES/N64/MSX/Turbografix/Genesis games are available to download from Nintendo's online store.

Needs more sega saturn