3 November 2006, 11:56 AM
Yeah, so I wanted to head out to Hiroshima with a couple of friends to a local specialty shop that serves a great yakisoba/akonamiyaki bowl. It was supposed to be all fun and games, well mostly...
In order to get anywhere in this country you have to be familiar with the railway system, one; because the roads are so clogged that a taxi would cost a fortune, and two; because the less vehicles you travel in the better. Figuring out the trains was easy enough-follow a series of lines on a piece of paper to what track you wanna take. Hungry? Sure, just grab a bite to eat from one of the vending machines that speaks fluent english and japanese. We're all set to go! Or are we?
A current epidemic here, train gropings have been on the rise for a while. Random men (and women) touching and feelin up others on a crouded train. Prior to this I had no knowledge of such things, other then the naive understanding that most japanese guys were perverted leches (which they usually aren't, lol).
So here I was standing against one of the couple of support poles when I feel a hand (I hope it was a hand) run by my butt. All the hairs on my neck stood on end and I yelped a bit, but I shrugged it off as an accident caused by the packed train. My friends were in the other car trying to get pictures of the country side. It was a couple more minutes before I felt the hand again this time farther up my backside. I shrugged it off again. I started to move with the flow of the train toward another part of the car, this time in a corner with a window. It was a few more minutes before I felt the hand again, this time on the bottom of my right breast. The hand closed and I gasped, Instinctively I brought my elbow back and shoved as hard as I could. I felt something connect and the immediate sensation of my funny bone tingling.
Well, needles to say I definitely got the guy, I hope it was a guy (they left a trail of blood, presumedly from a nose) and that was the last I felt any gropage. I didn't know wether to feel angry or flattered, so I expressed both. If he wanted to cop a feel of me so bad he should of just asked. Would I have let him if he did? Who knows, I was in one of those moods. I'M PART OF JAPANESE POP CULTURE FOLKLORE NOW!
Jesus, so many things have happened to me over just the last year. What will 2007 bring?
3 November 2006, 12:27 PM
XD stuff like that really happens, not just in anime. In highschool, I had some Japanese friends, and they told stories about that. They asked if the same thing happens here, I said I don't think so. The car for females is different from the guys' so... there.
My advice is: Go Kim! Kick their butts! XD
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It didn't necessarily feel good to hit the guy (if it was in fact a man), it was just what I've been trained to do. What with one of the japanese protestors breaking my arm with a baseball bat earlier this year I think you might be able to understand. The other people on the train didn't even flinch, which makes me believe if he went further they probably would have just left the car and me with the touchy feely.
Great story interesting exp now you know something new XD
If someone done that to me i would probibly just turn around and look at them XD
Anyway insight to what to look out for on japanese trains ^^
not just trains, buses too. that's why people still take bicycles to work, if they can XD to stay away from pervs
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Yes but the trouble is this, in Japanese this is a huge issue that everyone mostly seems to ignore. Japanese woman need to be taught to spray a guys face with Mace or carry a high voltage Stunner with them. Men can not be allowed to do this....
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Yes but the trouble is this, in Japanese this is a huge issue that everyone mostly seems to ignore. Japanese woman need to be taught to spray a guys face with Mace or carry a high voltage Stunner with them. Men can not be allowed to do this....
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Kiai Wrote:A current epidemic here, train gropings have been on the rise for a while. Random men (and women) touching and feelin up others on a crouded train. Prior to this I had no knowledge of such things, other then the naive understanding that most japanese guys were perverted leches (which they usually aren't, lol).
So here I was standing against one of the couple of support poles when I feel a hand (I hope it was a hand) run by my butt. All the hairs on my neck stood on end and I yelped a bit, but I shrugged it off as an accident caused by the packed train. My friends were in the other car trying to get pictures of the country side. It was a couple more minutes before I felt the hand again this time farther up my backside. I shrugged it off again. I started to move with the flow of the train toward another part of the car, this time in a corner with a window. It was a few more minutes before I felt the hand again, this time on the bottom of my right breast. The hand closed and I gasped, Instinctively I brought my elbow back and shoved as hard as I could. I felt something connect and the immediate sensation of my funny bone tingling.
Well, needles to say I definitely got the guy, I hope it was a guy (they left a trail of blood, presumedly from a nose) and that was the last I felt any gropage. I didn't know wether to feel angry or flattered, so I expressed both. If he wanted to cop a feel of me so bad he should of just asked. Would I have let him if he did? Who knows, I was in one of those moods. I'M PART OF JAPANESE POP CULTURE FOLKLORE NOW!
This isn't just a Folklore, this is a damn problem that the Japanese seem to ignore, Did you know there rumours of Underground magazines and websites dedicated to groping women in trains, where the perpetrators discuss their favorite pastime and share experiences. It is sick and I'm not surpised that there been a sudden imgration hike of preverts from all over the world to Japan.... They really need to bring this into the Spot light, Good on you Kiai.... next time uses some Checmical warfare, carry some Mace and stare whoever it was in the face with you Marine Warface.... Scare the fucking Shit out of them!!!!!
Quote:Jesus, so many things have happened to me over just the last year. What will 2007 bring?
It didn't necessarily feel good to hit the guy (if it was in fact a man), it was just what I've been trained to do. What with one of the japanese protestors breaking my arm with a baseball bat earlier this year I think you might be able to understand. The other people on the train didn't even flinch, which makes me believe if he went further they probably would have just left the car and me with the touchy feely.
It depends on the area, I don't know if the local train companies in your area have them. But because of the problem, some Company has started a Female only carrige, Which the British Railway companies haven't had since the 1920's.....
Did you know that.....
According to one survey, about two thirds of Japanese women between 20-40 years old have been groped on trains or at stations. Young teenagers (schoolgirls) are also often subject to groping.
Japanese women are less likely to openly react to such abuse than their Western counterparts, probably because of cultural differences. In the most extreme cases, when a victim is repeatedly harassed in such way, police protection can be assigned to her.
a whole Wikipeida artical to the damn subject....
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You know they have female only sections now.
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4 November 2006, 5:57 AM
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Quote:Josei Sen'yō Sharyō (女性専用車両, Josei Sen'yō Sharyō?) are special passenger cars that exist on some Japanese train lines. They are exclusively for women, and are part of Japanese efforts to reduce groping on public transport by (chikan).
Women-only cars are either enforced all day everyday from the first train until the last train, or during peak times, such as the morning and evening rush hours. The women-only restriction often does not apply on weekends and national holidays.
God how evil is Wikipedia?
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4 November 2006, 9:17 AM
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Personally I dont blame you for hitting the guy... I hope you sent him home crying (if it was a guy).
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4 November 2006, 11:02 AM
Are you kidding? That guy probably would wear plugs up his nose like a badge of honor!
Also, ever wonder why male anime characters bleed from the nose so much? Coincidence? I think not
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4 November 2006, 11:17 AM
Actually, someone once told me a story where a guy actually had a nose bleed from accidentally touching her where he didn't mean to... XD
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4 November 2006, 11:31 AM
It's one of those old cultural references that'll probably never be fully understood or explained. It fits in pretty well with the rest of the anime laws of physics.
What about when its so extreme they fly away XD
Quote:It fits in pretty well with the rest of the anime laws of physics.
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Speaking of which here is the complete list of The Anime Laws of Physics in its entirety, all 100 of em.
http://www.cs.utah.edu/~duongsaa/more_ht...eRules.htm
5 November 2006, 9:44 AM
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May I grope you... please?
I've read about this a few times, it's still pretty weird to me. The women-only car is one step in the right diection, but it's honestly more of a side-step. The problem is still there and probably won't go away unless more women do what you did... take action instead of just ignoring it.
Meh, I guess this will just remain one of the quirks of Japanese culture I just can't make sense of.
Kiai Wrote:It's one of those old cultural references that'll probably never be fully understood or explained. It fits in pretty well with the rest of the anime laws of physics. You know, if I remember correctly, this was actually explained in the Liner notes for one of my Urusei Yatsura dvds. I'll have to dig that out. In the meantime, I believe it has something to do with the belief of blood rushing to the head when the guy get's excited. Then of course it has no where to go so they get nosebleeds. Hence being pervy associated with nosebleeds. Hah... *goes looking for those liner notes*
FirestarterCL Wrote:May I grope you... please?
I've read about this a few times, it's still pretty weird to me. The women-only car is one step in the right diection, but it's honestly more of a side-step. The problem is still there and probably won't go away unless more women do what you did... take action instead of just ignoring it.
Meh, I guess this will just remain one of the quirks of Japanese culture I just can't make sense of.
Hope your medical insurance is up to date... your going to need it...
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never been groped myself anywhere that I never wanted ..
*wink* you figure it out lol
*g*
just on a serious afternote, if someone groped me like that in public, I just want till he does it again and try to grab his/her hand, Pull and show em my ugly mug, they'll think twice afterwards ;P
I'll humor you Sadi... you figure it out...
I think ive been groped before prob by a guy to XD
Chimasterwang Wrote:I think ive been groped before prob by a guy to XD
WELL. There's probably about a hundred things wrong about that.
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back in 2001 i think, i was at Six Flags:Great America and some girl grabed my ass, then later that day she grabbed a friend of mine too, no real point to this story i just read kiai's incident and it reminded me of that...
I used to know a girl back in highschool who would grab my ass whenever she could. One time I grabbed her arm, turned to her and said "you know, if our roles were reversed, you'd be screaming sexual harrasement a long time ago."
XD
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Kiai Wrote:I'll humor you Sadi... you figure it out...
hmm do I feel some hostility here?
never been gropen I'd never want to, (not like that anyway -.-)
I think you got me wrong there ^^:;
Kiai Wrote:A your the only admin here?
http://forums.thecrisiscenter.net/showgroups.php
Apparantly I am
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10 November 2006, 4:39 AM
whatever happened to blue and darky anyway They've taken a little vacation or somethin. WANT SOME MORE REGULAR MODS INSTEAD OF SUPER?
10 November 2006, 5:43 AM
Ooh. Kim applies for mod? Cool.
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10 November 2006, 6:14 AM
How much moderation is needed here anyway XD
10 November 2006, 6:20 AM
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10 November 2006, 6:22 AM
No singing! Especially from you, Hawk!
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10 November 2006, 6:57 AM
Yeah Hawk please no singing XD
10 November 2006, 7:08 AM
I'm not singing.... I'm Chanting!!!
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10 November 2006, 7:19 AM
No, just wondering if Lynk needed some help around here, but being a mod would be cool too.
10 November 2006, 7:31 AM
Mod Power isn't all it cracked up to be.... the oncall reporting.... the Spam... the annoying little question the Noob ask when the answer in the FAQ thread, wanting to beat the shit out of the Person you helped be promoted to admin who turns their back on you... it all back stabbing...
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