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Speaking of Macross, has anyone actually seen "Macross 7"? I haven't seen it, but was just curious if its as bad as I've heard?

I thought Macross 7 was downright unbearable. I only got through about the first 10-15 eps or so. Apparently it gets better later on, but I just lost interest. I found most of the characters annoying, Basara in particular. The animation is of fairly low quality, with lots of loops and reused footage. The same J-Pop (which I hate) songs are played over and over again.

There is some good information about the Macross saga in there, but overall I found it to be the red-headed step child of the series.

Zero on the otherhand is well worth watching, although it gets pretty wierd at the end.

The thing is that Macross Plus follows the DYRL timeline. This fact is shown clearly by seeing the Macross whole and the fact that the Macross has both ARMD-1 and ARMD-2 attached as arms instead of the Prometheus and Daedalus. And then Macross 7 uses the VF-19 from Plus, but it remains vague as to which timeline it's actually following... then you have Zero which complicates things a little more as well cause you're getting the sense that it's following more along the lines of DYRL and Macross 7...

IIRC the offical story is that the ARMDs were used to replace the characters sometime after the original series. Also, I believe that while the story from the original series is canon, most of the visual aspects from DYRL are canon. Can't remember where I saw that though.